Who Are Les Miserables?

A response to @matthewjmandel asking my thoughts on A Comparative Book / Movie Review of LES MISÉRABLES

It’s interesting. I agree with a lot of the comments about losing complexity, but I don’t have as much of a problem with the character changes (partly because I’m used to the stage version, where Gavroche is less political & the the Thenardiers are funny, but still dangerous)

Eponine’s probably the biggest change that isn’t just a simplification, but I think her role in the story still works, even if the details have been changed.

I do have a problem with the finale, because it’s *not* Jean Valjean’s heaven by any stretch of the imagination. It works better on stage, where it’s more like a curtain call for all the characters who have died.

The main place I disagree with the post, though, is about the theme and title. Listening to @readlesmispod talking about how the word is perceived in French makes it clear that *all* of the main characters are “miserables” and Hugo is linking the sympathetic wretched like Valjean and Fantine with the clearly evil wretched like the Thenardiers because, as far as society is concerned, they’re the same. Society looks at Fantine and thinks she’s just as depraved as Thenardier.

And Hugo is arguing that they *all* deserve compassion, that they *all* should have a better life, that society should treat them *all* better, whether they turn to evil when they fall or not.

So the musical is less of a complete inversion of the theme and (once again) more of a simplification.

Fiction can’t *prove* a point about about reality, but it can make you *think*…

Something I wrote after my third time through #LesMiserables:

Fiction can’t *prove* a point about about reality, but it can make you *think* about it, and consider connections or perspectives that you might not have considered before. And that’s a very valuable thing.

https://hyperborea.org/les-mis/about/third-time-through/

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Les Mis, goose, dream

I dreamed that Jean Valjean convinced Javert to rescue an injured goose like he helps rescue Marius in the original. Javert took the goose to the station, issued it its own photo ID (it was a modern retelling), and the goose proceeded to follow Javert around everywhere for weeks until it got homesick and wanted him to take it back to the lagoon where Valjean had found it. Somehow it managed to convey this to him and he brought it back.

#goose #lesmiserables #dream #weird

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Still a bit rough around the edges, but my Gemini conversion for my Les Misérables …

Still a bit rough around the edges, but my Gemini conversion for my Les Misérables commentary is up! The blog is now available both on the web and via Gemini.

It features commentary from two full read-throughs (in different translations) plus reviews of movie, stage, radio and comic adaptations.

Gemini: Re-Reading Les Misérables
Web: Re-Reading Les Misérables

#books #gemini #LesMiserables #LesMis #gemlog

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I was listening to the Broadway album…

Oddly related to the post I found earlier: I was listening to the Broadway album of #LesMiserables for the first time in ages.

1. I know this version of the show well enough that the gaps in the recording are as distracting as the changes in the current production & movie.

2. On My Own & A Little Fall of Rain still hit me.

3. Bring Him Home hits me now. I wasn’t expecting that. But now I associate it with the moment in the movie when Javert finds Gavroche’s body.

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The amazing scene where Eponine stares down…

The latest episode of the Les Miserables Reading Companion podcast covers the amazing scene where Eponine single-handedly stares down 6 hardened criminals and wins.

As always, their analysis turns up some really interesting connections with other parts of the book – like the fact that Eponine channels both Javert and Thenardier, the two main antagonists, but uses their traits to act heroically.

https://readlesmis.libsyn.com/ep40-iv8i-v-the-dangers-girls-face

Les Miserables Reading Companion. Up to the introduction of Patron-Minette & the “Jondrette” family.

Listened to the latest episode of the #LesMiserables Reading Companion. Up to the introduction of Patron-Minette & the “Jondrette” family.

1. Wow, the callback to the miner’s candlestick from back in Digne (lost in the Denny translation).

2. I hadn’t made the connection between Éponine’s 1st & Fantine’s last appearances.

3. Three times through the book & I never caught on to the implications of just how far Thénardier goes in exploiting his daughters. Ugh.

https://readlesmis.libsyn.com/ep30-iii7i-iii8iv-miners-tools

@readlesmispod Yeah, I really like how it shows her resourcefulness as she switches tactics repeatedly, and the “you think you can intimidate *me*?” speech. And now I’m thinking of parallels with the chisel & powder keg.

@readlesmispod Yeah, I really like how it shows her resourcefulness as she switches tactics repeatedly, and the “you think you can intimidate *me*?” speech.

And now I’m thinking of parallels with the chisel & powder keg.

Malleability of identity: the two youngest Thénardier children swapped to Magnon, Thénardier becoming Jondrette, the obvious pseudonym of Mademoiselle Miss, taking up a new ID by moving a block away…

Malleability of identity: the two youngest Thénardier children swapped to Magnon, Thénardier becoming Jondrette, the obvious pseudonym of Mademoiselle Miss, taking up a new ID by moving a block away…

I’ve finished part 3 (of 5) of #LesMiserables, which ends on a solid cliffhanger….

I’ve finished part 3 (of 5) of #LesMiserables, which ends on a solid cliffhanger.

Something I realized is a major difference from the last time I read it: I’m looking ahead for connections, not just backward. Since It’s only been 5 years since the last time, I remember more of the book (and not just the musical).

I’ve also started listening to a weekly podcast that’s also going through the book this year, which has been fascinating: https://readlesmis.libsyn.com/

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Les Mis: Marius/Cosette Courtship

One of many things that gets lost in adaptation is the extended courtship between Marius & Cosette (usually condensed to love at first sight). They pass each other in the park on a daily basis w/o paying much attention to each other, until she hits puberty & they start stealing glances at each other, trying to keep Valjean from noticing. She’s a lot better at that part than he is, though, which gets funny at times.

#LesMiserables

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It does get creepy later on when Marius starts, well, creeping around her garden at night.

But at this point, it’s funny watching Marius hide behind trees so he & Cosette can make eyes at each other w/o Valjean seeing, make a fool over himself with the handkerchief he thinks she dropped (it was actually Valjean’s, so she can’t understand why he’s so fascinated by it), etc.

And when Valjean gets suspicious, and sets traps? Marius blunders into every single one.

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TODO: Check to see how much it retreads Stealth Courtship and Rue Plumet from the first read-through, and overlap with the Twitter version.

Marius & Cosette…

I really appreciate that in the novel, Marius & Cosette have an actual courtship, not the love at first sight that most of the adaptations go with for time.

It’s also amusing how much of it is done stealthily, stealing glances at each other across the park.

And it’s really amusing to watch how clumsy Marius is when it comes to not being noticed, while Cosette manages to keep things secret from her father even after Marius starts visiting her in her own garden, months later.

OTOH, there’s also the awkward stalker stage in between.

I’d forgotten just how much fool he makes himself over the handkerchief! 🤣🤣🤣

Todo: It looks like I didn’t actually incorporate this into the blog. Check to see how much it retreads Stealth Courtship and Rue Plumet from the first read-through, and overlap with the Wandering.Shop version.

Marius’ grandfather, after reading the morning news, rants about kids these days, their sloppy dressing, …

Marius’ grandfather, after reading the morning news, rants about kids these days, their sloppy dressing, entitlement, disrespect for political systems that were good enough back in his day, disparages their masculinity, makes racist comparisons, & declares all news media a scourge.

It’s presented as ridiculous. And it is.

But it’s also depressing in how familiar it is. >150 years later, it’s exactly what you’d expect from an old man shouting at the news today. #lesmiserables

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introductions time!

#introductions time! I’m an LA-area programmer, #scifi / #comics / #fantasy fan & hobbyist photographer. I’ve been @kelsonv for a while, but I keep meaning to look for a more specific instance for fandom-related discussions. It looks like this might be it?

Watching #iZombie, #TheFlash & #TheMagicians, way behind on a bunch of other shows. Favorite comics ATM are #Saga & #AstroCity.

In the middle of re-reading all of #LesMiserables, currently on the chapters introducing Marius.

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It’s weird how it hides the instance name…my other accounts are on mastodon.social (my main one) and photog.social (my photography). Maybe I should’ve picked different usernames as well just for clarity?

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